Monday, June 30, 2008

How to Choose the Perfect Raw Food Diet.

*Disclaimer - my post title is totally tongue in cheek. Don't start pelting me with rotten fruit...yet. Wait til you get to the end, that will at least give me a few minutes to put on my protective gear.

For those starting out on the raw food diet or just starting to learn and get a little curious about it, have you ever felt confused and overwhelmed by the plethora of approaches and information out there about it?

I sure have. I was all over the map when I first started looking into this lifestyle. There were many different sources out there who each promoted their own different way of doing things.

Here are some gurus and organizations I checked out, in the order that they popped into my head:
Gabriel Cousens, Ann Wigmore, The Garden Diet, The Hallelujah Diet, David Wolfe, Paul Nison, Alissa Cohen and Doug Graham, among others. And it seems to me, that there are more raw food leaders bursting out of the watermelon patch every day.

I did all this because, well, I can be a bit nerdy and obsessive about research when I'm interested in something. I'm like a greedy little collector, I mine the internet and library for preciousssss bits of information and I hoard them in my MacBook a dark, secret cave and sit there with my beady eyes gleaming in the dark, sifting the treasure through my fingers and mulling over it for all eternity. Gollum.

And what did all this research do for me? To be frank, it frustrated me and mostly, it scared the bejeebers out of me.

I was scared because I wanted to do this healthfully. There were so many warnings out there about people who failed to thrive on the raw food diet. I did not want to be one of them and I certainly did not want to drag my family into a possible mess.

Every raw food leader appeared confident that their approach was the best one. Yet many of them were saying vastly different things about health creation. Can you imagine how terrifying this was? If you can/have been there, raise your hand virtually!

As I continued processing everything I'd learned, I eventually figured out something really helpful in my journey. And I'm gonna share it here today.

Despite the different nuances in each raw food leader's approach, there are only two major ways that one can do the raw food diet.
When I scrutinized the finer details of the diets that all these leaders recommended, I began to see an emerging pattern, regardless of what they said or which foods they promoted. I began to see that all of these diets seemed to fall into one of two camps:

Approach No. 1 - High Fruit
A high fruit approach would mean that you're getting the bulk of your caloric intake from fruit.

Approach No. 2 - High Fat
A high fat approach would mean that you're getting the bulk of your caloric intake from fat.

But does it have to be one or the other? Is there a middle ground?
Okay, here's my personal take on the how's and why's. Think about the foods available in the raw food world. We have our fruit, greens/veggies and nuts/seeds.

Fruit has potential to be a fuel, because it contains a good amount of calories, esp when you're eating enough of it. Most fruit calories come from carbohydrates.

Nuts and seeds have no shortage of calories either. However, most of those calories come from fat.

Greens and vegetables on the other hand are quite low in calories. 1 whole pound of romaine lettuce has only 77 calories. You'd have to eat many heads of greens in a day to get you enough fuel to sustain yourself, if you truly weren't eating any or many calories from fruit or fat along with it.

So hopefully you can see that IF you're eating enough food to sustain you in the long term, that you will have to choose between fruit and fat as your main source of fuel.

I often hear people say that their diet consists mostly of greens. My gut feeling about that is that they eat so much greens (volume wise) that it can't help but look like they're getting their calories from that.

But I think that many people who eat mostly greens and little fruit, end up putting a lot of fat calories on their salads. Avocados, nuts, seeds and oils. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In my early days (before '07) as I was still figuring all this out, I LOVED a particular salad that I made. In fact, I loved it so much, that I sometimes ate it for lunch and dinner. There were times I felt that I could remain raw forever if I could just have this salad every day. For breakfast, I'd have a very small, light meal of watermelon or something.

Here's what went in my salad: 2 or more hearts of romaine lettuce, lots of tomatoes and cucumbers and 1-2 avocados, drowned in a goodly amount of my absolute favorite salad dressing made from tahini (I could use 1/3 - 1/2 a jar in one meal), lemon juice, garlic and salt.

As you can see, I personally thought I was eating a high greens diet, but in reality I was getting most of my calories from the tahini (sesame seed butter) and avocados.

I suppose that you could try to go down the middle road with this and eat equal amounts of fruit and fat, but I think that is difficult in the long term for a couple of reasons.

For one, you'd really have to measure what you're eating, and for lazy people like me that's not cool. Fruit has more volume, so it's easy for someone to think that they're eating more fruit than fat because they ate 3 apples that day and only 1 avocado, when in reality, 1 avocado contains over 100 more calories than 3 apples.

For two, my experience is that fats feel emotionally addictive, unlike fruit. The fats would always pull me back in until I realized that I was eating mostly fat again. For three, this has the potential to wreak havoc with your digestion as fats and fruit do not digest well together.

It's a choice.
Also, I think that in the end, we all have to decide which source of fuel we think we run best on - carbs or fat. The middle of the road approach could make our travels a little bumpy.

In the post I wrote a few days ago about carbohydrates, I mentioned that I feel that carbohydrates is the best source of fuel for humans. So personally, I choose fruit as my main fuel of choice and it has worked well for me. I will say that I have had periods of going back to fats as a main fuel, and even a week of doing that leaves me feeling so sick and sluggish that I always end up going back to fruit.

I do not think there is a right or wrong approach here. But I do believe that every choice we make comes with a consequence. And I did not like the consequences that came with eating a high fat raw diet in the long term.

Do you agree? Disagree? What is your approach right now, and have you changed it from something different in the past? Should I be running for cover right now? And where did I put that protective gear? :)

20 rotten tomatoes:

Sarah said...

I obviously agree with eating a high-fruit, low-fat diet. I also went through many raw books/websites to get to where I am today. The Hallelujah Diet got me started, I moved on the Dr. Joel Fuhrman, and then I found the Garden Diet. I read anything and everything I could get my eyes on. A lot were high fat and did seem almost impossible for me to maintain over the long haul. Luckily, in a matter of a few weeks from when my search began, I came across 80/10/10rv. For once I had hope, and felt great when I embarked on this journey. If I revert back to high-fat for just one meal, I feel sluggish for at least 24 hours. That's proof enough for me that my body thrives on high-fruit. The perfect way to choose in my opinion, is to really pay attention to your body. What makes you feel the best (HONESTLY)? What makes you feel alive?

fruchtloop said...

Sarah,
That post really made me think. In fact, I have been thinking about this subject all weekend.
You see,you're right on an emotional level fat is very fulfilling. I know that when I am tired at night and my mind is racing (which it always does, but at least when I am not tired I can channel the race in my mind constructively and happily) when I eat high-fat my digestive track is full (which we know has all types of nerves in it), thus the difficulty in digesting the fat, anesthesises my mind ,calming me down.
I guess the key for me to stay high fruit/carb instead of high-fat is to learn how to deal with the emotional feelings I have that are heightened at night, because of being tired, detox and dealing 'head-on' with cooking for the family and smelling all the spices that were a comfort from my childhood. It is tough.
But, a worthwhile endeavor.
Great post!
Fruitloop

EcoDea said...

Wow, that was so interesting and clarifying for me, as I have been thinking of trying 80/10/10 lately - thanks for posting! One question: do you eat sprouted grains at all? And any dehydrated stuff? I ask because I am debating whether I should buy a dehydrator or not. I'm not into "raw goodies" that much, but I do make some essene bread and "cookies" in the sun sometimes (in Brazil when it's not rainy) and my son really likes it. Your post on the water content of food got me thinking even more. Anyway, I'm pending towards not buying it but also afraid I'll get back and regret that I didn't... What do you think?

EcoDea said...

BTW, I came across this today and thought of you: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/038566267X/ref=amb_link_6985952_4?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1W16DR8TJ5EFD91P0ABR&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_p=403390501&pf_rd_i=1000237011

TiffH said...

I discovered raw and you at the same time so fortunately I didn't have to swim the "gourmet raw" seas first. I think if it had been the other way around I would have been intrigued by the fun recipes but then threw my hands up over the complexity of it all and given up altogether. I am much more excited about embracing the simplicity of a single piece of delicious fruit and I think that simplicity has carried over into other parts of my life as well. Simple meals and simple digestion equal more energy just like simplifying your life leaves you more energy to enjoy it.

Vered said...

No need to run for cover... as you know I eat a mainstream diet but intuitively, it seems so much more healthy to eat a diet high in fruit than a diet high in fat.

anna said...

Started off eating a diet that could be described as middle-of-the-road raw vegan, lots of fruits, greens, and nuts. However, as my health improved my diet, I started experimenting with gourmet raw foods and began consuming an inordinate amount of fats. Started noticing signs of poor health again, so after experimentation, I've found that cutting out nuts and oils, and limiting avocadoes and most seeds I'm feeling better.

Yinfern said...

Sarah, I'm reading the 80/10/10 diet book by Dr. Graham right now, and I skipped to the back where the testimonials of many people, just so shocked at how much those people suffered by going through eating raw, yet still suffering in their health, because they are eating high fat raw diet, instead of the low fat raw that 80/10/10 is about. I guess I am one of the laziest people around in terms of researching, I do the short cut, picking people's brains by asking lots of people questions and go with the best. That was how I found Sonlight, T-Tapp, and 80.10.10.

I'm very glad to be one of the lucky ones that I didn't have to seive through tons of misinformation about the raw diet, thanks to friends like you. I think you're right on your analysis, it's really hard to get carbs half and half from fat. Low fat just sounds very logical. High fat (even comes from raw foods) will clog arteries, cause heart attacks, diabetes, and a host of problems. It's sad to know that there are lots more people out there trying to eat a high fat raw diet and think they are doing the best for their bodies.

Keep writing your articles, Sarah! And you'll be a beacon of light to those people, somehow, somewhere, sometime..........

HiHoRosie said...

I really need cut down on the fats! :(

forever*rrraw said...

Sarah, everything you've written here resonates very nicely with me.

I've been on 811rv since mid-March and I've taken most of my calories from fruit. Since going raw, I've never had to struggle with the fruit vs. fat issue, as I was fortunate to discover The 80/10/10 Diet before going raw.

Before I went raw, I followed the Zone for about ten years, eating or drinking lots of dairy, sometimes with a fair amount of fruit, and having fish or eggs with my veggies. For the most part, I stayed away from meat, sugar, and junk. I was reasonably happy in the Zone, but always wondered in the back of my mind whether it was optimal in terms of health, vitality, and longevity.

And then Steve Pavlina came along and blogged every day for 30 days in January 2008 about his 30-day trial of eating 811rv, and everything snowballed from there, slowly at first and then with increasing momentum.

I've been keenly interested in optimal health and life extension for as long as I've been in the Zone, as well as doing my bit to push for the feasibility of indefinite life spans, but after reading and (more importantly) seeing what Steve Pavlina (and Roger Haeske and Frederic Patenaude and Douglas Graham) could do with 811rv, I've begun to realize some of the many benefits of 811rv ... like a clear mind, a lean body, and baby-soft skin :)

And Sarah, it's been such a pleasure to follow your blog to clarify and consolidate my gains on 811rv! Thank you from the bottom of my raw vegan heart :)

Martin said...

Sarah, I do think there is a right and wrong approach. I do not think high fat is ok. And by the way my current dog and past dog are/ where both big time fruit eaters. The pasta dog eater was just in the movie. As alway great blog

Sarah said...

Sarah, I agree! Paying attention to your body is key.

Fruitloop, it can be so difficult to deal with the things that arise when we stop numbing ourselves with fats and other heavy, druggy foods! I've totally been where you are and I know you can do it. (((hugs)))

Ecodea, I don't do sprouted grains... for one I do not have the patience, and for two I just feel better when I stay away from grains. As for the dehydrator - I used to have a honking huge excalibur one, used it a few times, and sold it at a loss. The one thing my kids liked that I made in it were half dehyrated banana chips (Dr. D's rec, btw, for occasional consumption) but I am honestly too lazy to keep up with it. If your son enjoys them occasionally then you may get a smaller, cheaper one to try out? Oh, and thanks for the very cool looking book rec - I'm putting it on my wishlist! :)

Tiff, you have the key right there - simplicity! The no. 1 thing I love about this lifestyle. It seems complicated in some other ways (socially?) but I have found that practice makes that part better. I'm gonna reply to your email soon! :D You go girl.

Vered, yay! A diet thing we agree on. Hehe :) It surprises me sometimes, how many people who say they eat healthy - whether cooked whole foods, vegetarian, vegan and even raw vegan, eat such a high percentage of fat. I certainly used to.

Anna, thank you for sharing your experience! It is interesting to me how many have had this same thing happen.

Yin Fern, thanks for the thoughtful comment and the encouragement! I wish I had skipped several steps (whole foods, vegan, high fat raw) before I found this. But no regrets for me I guess. In a way it was a gentle transition that took years! BTW - I got your PM and will reply tonight, but I gotta run now and will be gone through this evening. Thanks so much! :D

Heidi, I think most of us have been where you are! Even I periodically have my bad days where I self sabotage and over eat on avos or pistachios (my 2 main fats of choice). Usually when I sit down and think it through, I realize it's not because my body craves it, but because I was stressed out, upset or had a busy day and just want to not think about it. (((hugs)))

Chris, I don't think I realized before that Steve Pavlina's trial led you to find 811! How cool is that. :) I knew you were a SP reader though.

Martin, what fruits do your dogs like? Mine are crazy about watermelon, durian(!), avos, apples and most of the fruit veggies. :)

EcoDea said...

Thanks for the info Sarah!! :)

Anonymous said...

Hi Sarah--So glad you're feeling better! I love how you clarified that while there appears to be a plethora of raw food diets, essentially there are two. ;-) I've been meandering and sprinting to and fro with raw since last November. When I began and was eating just fruits and veggies (though not enough fruit) I felt amazing for a couple of days: my senses were heightened, my eyes were seeing more vividly. And then I got really hungry. ;-) I promptly found a local raw food cafe and spent a few months spending more than a few dollars on yummy high-fat raw food and books. Except I don't cook (or uncook) and I didn't feel nearly like I did at the very beginning. Yet I still couldn't figure out the missing link (whisper: fruit). Once I read the writings of a couple of authors who helped me better understand the real consequences of high-fat, I knew that had the ring of truth for me, and upon finding your site and reading 80/10/10, I feel very clear on the whys and much better able to tackle the hows. Now, comes the doing! Reading your blog and seeing your results (and that of other 80/10/10ers) helps makes this change even more palatable. ;-))

Kim M.

OrganicAthlete said...

Sarah,
This is spot on. Good job.
-Bradley

Sarah said...

Ecodea, you're quite welcome! I hope it helped, it was just my opinion though. :)

Kim, I'm so very glad that my post made sense to you! That is very encouraging. Best wishes to you on your journey and keep us posted!

Bradley, thank you very much!

Wendi Dee said...

I agree with you. I've said it before, though: I'm not completely ready to give up the fats, yet. I'm getting more and more into fruits, though, and eating less nuts. I think, for me, it's going to be so gradual that one day I'll realize I've gone for days without fats and that will be my turning point to a healthier raw diet.

I think you are a strong person to be doing the 80/10/10 when you are still an 18 month old toddler! :-P

I'm the same way when it comes to learning about something new...I read as much as I can and then try to make sense of it all for myself. I have a hard time blindly following any one person's beliefs until I try them out for myself, first.

XOXOXO

Martin said...

Sarah, my dog like almost all fruit but mainly melons, bananas and tomatoes. I always have to sare.

Sarah said...

That is cool, Martin! I used to be afraid to give my dogs fruit (sugar content) but now I know better. :)

SurlySue said...

Sarah,

Thanks so much for your blog. I've been eating vegan only 3 months, and I'm at a loss for recipes given my allergies to soy and gluten. I "discovered" raw food, and realized it would open a world of options for me. But now I'm bombarded by friends and my trainer about my low protein intake (~10%). Your words make sense, make me calmer, and make me hopeful for a future with many wonderful, healthy options.

Best,
Sue